Rochefort 8 Clone

A ProMash Recipe Report



BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
18-A Strong Belgian Ale, Dubbel

Min OG: 1.040 Max OG: 1.080   
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 35   
Min Clr: 10 Max Clr: 20  Color in SRM, Lovibond


Recipe Specifics
Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 15.56      
Anticipated OG: 1.080 Plato: 19.44
Anticipated SRM: 26.8        
Anticipated IBU: 21.9      
Brewhouse Efficiency: 73  %   
Wort Boil Time: 75  Minutes   


Pre-Boil Amounts
Evaporation Rate: 17.50  Percent Per Hour   
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 7.04  Gal   
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.063  SG 15.41 Plato


Formulas Used
Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Garetz


Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
70.7 11.00 lbs.  Pilsener Belgium 1.037 2
11.2 1.75 lbs.  CaraMunich 40 France 1.034 46
9.6 1.50 lbs.  Candy Sugar    1.047 100
3.6 0.56 lbs.  Flaked Corn (Maize) America 1.040 1
3.6 0.56 lbs.  Special B Malt Belgian 1.030 114
1.2 0.19 lbs.  Carafa Special Germany 1.030 302

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
1.70 oz.  Styrian Goldings Whole 4.20 18.6 75 min
0.73 oz.  Hallertau Hersbrucker Whole 3.50 3.3 30 min
0.38 oz.  Hallertau Hersbrucker Whole 3.50 0.0 5 min


Extras
Amount Name Type Time
0.36 Oz  Corriander Seed Spice 5 Min.(boil)


Yeast
WYeast 1762 Belgian Abbey II


Water Profile
Profile: Rochefort
Profile known for:   
Calcium(Ca): 82.0 ppm
Magnesium(Mg): 10.0 ppm
Sodium(Na): 6.0 ppm
Sulfate(SO4): 32.0 ppm
Chloride(Cl): 17.0 ppm
biCarbonate(HCO3): 240.0 ppm
pH: 8.34


Mash Schedule
Mash Name:    Rochefort 8 Step Mash
Total Grain Lbs: 14.06   
Total Water Qts: 20.01 Before Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal: 5.00 Before Additional Infusions
Tun Thermal Mass: 0.00   
Grain Temp: 55.00 F   


Step Name
Step
Time
Rest
Time
Start
Temp
Stop
Temp
Heat
Type
Infuse
Temp
Infuse
Amount
Infuse
Ratio
Protein 5 30 143 141 Infuse 155 20.01 1.42
Main Rest 5 60 154 153 Infuse 210 5.30 1.80
Mash Out 5 5 168 168 Infuse 210 10.04 2.51

Total Water Qts: 35.35 After Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal: 8.84 After Additional Infusions
Total Mash Volume Gal: 9.96 After Additional Infusions

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
All infusion amounts are in Quarts.
All infusion ratios are Quarts/Lbs.



Mash Schedule


Notes
With the exception of one soured sample (which nevertheless was quite tasty), all beers came quite close to the original, although all were a bit too dark. When we started this whole cloning contest, Rochefort beers with the original Special B were still available at shops. However, the beer we used at the tasting was of more recent date, using the new Special B from maltster Dingemans. Some clones were made with the original DWC Special "B" (including the winner), others with the replacing Dingemans version.There is a surely a different taste to it now.

The winning beer was made exactly following the recipe below. Fermentation temperature was 21-23C. No water treatment, my water is 10D. For more info about water treatment regarding the Rochefort area, i refer to HBD #4116 & HBD #4115 (article by Jacques Bertens & Jan Willem van Groenigen).

For 10 liters, 1.080 OG, 32 IBU, 70 EBC :

Maltbill
% Amount Malt
70.4 2375 grams Pilsnermalt (Belgian)
11.1 375 grams Caramunich 120 EBC
1.5 50 grams Carafa special dehusked 800 EBC
3.7 125 grams Special "B"
3.7 125 grams Flaked Corn
9.6 325 grams Dark Candysugar

Hops (flowers) & Spices
Styrian Goldings 23 grams 4.2% 75 minutes
Hallertau Hersbrucker 10 grams 3.5% 30 minutes
Hallertau Hersbrucker 5 grams 3.5% 5 minutes
Coreanderseed crushed 5 grams 5 minutes

Yeast: Wyeast 1762 Belgian Abbey II or recultered from a bottle of Rochefort. The winning recipe used the Wyeast.

Mashing: 3 liters per kg malt. Flaked corn boiled separately before adding to the mash.

60-62C 30 minutes
68C 60 minutes
75C 5 minutes

Sparging with water at 78C

A promash recipe file is available at the following location: http://www.geocities.com/iluvhops/brouwsel/rochefort8.html , which will make life easier for all you non-metric brewers. At this location you will also find some extra info (references etc.) together with a copy of this post.

Below, I listed some findings based upon variations in the recipes. Of course, this wasn't set up in a randomized, replicated fashion, but I think it might be of interest nonetheless:

1) The use of chocolate malt instead of the dehusked Carafa resulted in
a bit of a licorice taste or even a bit of a burned taste.
2) If you can't get Carafa Dehusked, look for a debittered/dehusked
dark chocolate/Black malt. It can also be had from Weyermann
3) The use of the original yeast instead of the Wyeast didn't change
much in the tasting profile. Which makes sense, because they're said to
be similar.
4) The second placed beer (Theo Verschoor) was fermented at 28C,
which resulted in a very strong banana and fruit aroma!
5) The third placed beer (Edwin Hoogedoorn) tasted very close to the second,
but
had a less pronounced aroma, because of a lower temperature fermentation.
6) To get a color more resembling the original, it is suggested to
slightly bring down the amount of Carafa.
7) Some beers had problems during bottle-conditioning. When bottling
make sure to do it in time or to add a healthy yeast.
8) Samples with added (non-Rochefort) yeast for conditioning did not
seem to result in a different taste.




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